I surfed the internet looking for facesitting topics, when I came across a blog on Tumbler: Embracing Your Inner Dominant. Goddess Sonya wrote an article, "How To Sit on His Face," posted on May 25, 2011. She presented one female, dominant, perspective on sitting on a guy's face. Many of her statements were consistent with what I've posted here, though there are some differences.
Thought I'd put a perspective on some of what she said:
Having had my face sat on for over a quarter of a century, I highly disagree with most of this statement. I've had women sit on my face in different countries in Europe, in North America, and in South America, as well as in Turkey. I say disagree with most of what she says, as I see what she's attempting to say.
A human head could withstand facesitting weight up to a certain point, then it transitions to a painful experience where you feel like the weight is going to crush your head like a watermelon. I've never I had that problem. I've had a woman my height, 200+ pounds, sit on my face with her full weight, while pushing down from above to add more pressure.
My face enjoyed comfort. Goddess Sonya mentioned having a woman's soft parts on a guy's face. This makes a large difference in how much weight a man's face could withstand. There are women whose butt cheeks normally spread, allowing more of my face to "disappear" into her butt crack. The skin, within her buttcrack, is among the softest parts of her butt. For women whose butts don't naturally part when they sit, I "spread" their butt cheeks before their butt settles on my face.
Another woman, over 200 pounds, sat on my face without countering her weight with her legs or arms. She just sat and let her butt sink as far as it'd normally sink if she were sitting this way on the ground. Her butt was "cushiony", her full weight facesit didn't put me through any discomfort.
In the time I've had women sit on my face, the worst experiences happened to be the ones where they utilized their leg and or their arm muscles to counter their facesitting weight. The full weight aspect was gone, and so was the pleasure that I got out of the experience.
As I've mentioned earlier in this blog, if the woman isn't sitting on your face the way she'd sit on a chair or stool, she isn't sitting on your face. She's hovering or doing something else. I'd call this "face squatting" or "face hovering" and set it up as a different form of domination that's a "cousin" to facesitting.
I've had a woman, a "spinner" sit on my face on a regular basis. No matter how hard she sat, she couldn't put any "weight discomfort" on my face. Even when she sat the hardest, I didn't feel any discomfort. Every time I felt muscle tension in her legs, showing that she's countering her weight with her legs, I pulled her butt down harder on my face. I "nudged" her legs upward. I kept doing that until I felt complete relaxation in her leg muscles.
Whenever she relaxed her muscles and sat with her full weight, she was able to sit longer. I was able to enjoy the experience better.
So, whether Goddess Sonya's statement is applicable or not depends on the woman's weight, and the strength of the head and face that she's sitting on. In most instances, a woman could sit on a guy's face as if she were sitting on a chair. This is what makes it "facesitting." Again, if she's not sitting on his face the same way she'd sit on a chair, she's not facesitting, she's face hovering or face squatting.
Dominas that utilize their leg and hip muscles to counter their fullweight facesit tend to be "one time" visits. For me, it's a pet peeve. Sit with that full weight if you want to say that you conducted a facesit session.
Her azz cheeks would be hugging my cheeks, or upper face area, away from the other stubbles. Most of my stubbles would be exposed and not covered by ass. When she slides her asshole into my mouth, while maintaining a full weight facesit, her ass ends up smothering my opened mouth, as I orally service her asshole and anal ring. The sensitive areas of her ass avoid contact with the stubble area of my cheeks.
If a woman thinks she is reverse facesitting someone, and he or she is breathing through his or her nose, then that woman isn't facesitting. Two exceptions, catching up on one's breathing, or the woman is a spinner, and her azz is small, provided that full weight is applied where she is sitting. Otherwise, she's face hovering or face squatting. In a true reverse fullweight facesit, where the woman is also receiving cunnilingus, a guy would not be able to breathe through his nose. His or her nose would be buried and wedged deep inside the facesitting woman's butt crack.
This is my favorite facesitting position. When a woman is full weight facesitting me this way, I breathe through my mouth. If I try to breathe through my nostrils in this scenario, and she's full weight facesitting me properly, I wouldn't be able to breath anything in. I'd just feel her asshole or ass crack responding to the suction by pressing harder against my nostrils.
Also, this isn't a case where "some men" like this. I post on the Mistress Destiny Femdom Forums, where they have forums dedicated to facesitting. The common trend, among the posters there, and in other facesitting forums on the internet, is towards brutal full weight facesitting. The average guy, into facesiting, favors a full weight facesit as I've described it on this blog.
Ladies, if you follow Goddess Sonya's facesitting advice, chances are good that your sittees will be looking for another facesitting domina.
Her step one, reverse facesitting with woman's back to his eyes, is spot on for many guys. This is my favorite. For the face hover method that she described, this allows weight counter balance. But, this is facesitting, where no weight counterbalance is needed for the most part. Also, reverse isn't the only way to do it.
A former pornstar had me lay on myback with my head at the foot of the bed. She then turned around, and sat on my face, with her back to my feet and her feet planted on the floor. Her asshole was on my mouth and her closed vagina was over my nose. She sat with her full weight, while sitting straight up. I had a comfortable and enjoyable experience. She didn't sit this way for long though, as she knew that I couldn't breath. Most of the time, she reverse facesat me, with my nostrils under her butt hole and her pussy in my mough.
Goddess Sonya's step two, positioning with knees on his shoulders, is a position for a face hover or face squat, but not for a facesit. In a face squat, or face hover, you'll need strength in your legs to support the hover. In a facesit; however, the legs need to be relaxed.
For a facesit, closing the legs, and meeting the knees over the face chair' belly, allows for more face sitting weight to force down on the face. The woman should stand, feet on either side of the neck or wedged against the face chair's armpits. Then, she should drop a squat and land her azz on the face chair's face. She should sit as if she's sitting on a stool.
Goddess Sonya's step three, the facesit contact, is spot on. From my experiences, I position myself so that the woman's asshole smothers my nostrils. I spread her ass cheeks before this so that more of my face ends up inside her butt crack... soft parts of her azz on my face, her pussy exposed to my mouth and tongue.
Goddess Sonya's step four should be modified to assist with the proper facesit. If it helps her maintain her balance at the same time she's sitting upright or near upright. Also, this step would make it easier for the face chair to exhale directly against the woman's butthole. The face chair could inhale with his/her mouth, then go back to cunnilingus. The facesitting woman could press down on the face chair's chest to get air to escape through the nose, and directly against her butthole. Every woman that did this to me enjoyed the resulting sensation.
In step 4a, Goddess Sonya calls for lifting up for licking. That's not necessary, or desired in a facesitting session. If a woman lifts herself up this way, she's face hovering. I stop licking until she gets back into a full weight facesit position before I resume licking. It doesn't matter how hard a woman is sitting on my face, I've managed to maneuver my mouth to pleasure her until she creamed into my mouth... and beyond. I still managed to get my breathing done.
She mentions, in this step, that a face hoverer's knees would start hurting. In a facesit, where the legs are completely relaxed and not doing work, this takes longer to become an issue. She mentions the neck craning in her described position. Craning is an issue for a face hover, but not for a facesit. If the face chair has to crane to lick the woman's pussy, she's not facesitting.
An easy way to remember this is a description I've heard women say when it comes to using public restrooms. Many don't sit on the lid, but rather, they "hover" over it and urinate. Many have described this as "hovering". This concept also applies to facesitting, it doesn't make sense to reverse the meaning. You're either sitting on the face chair's face, or hovering/squatting over it.
The women that have sat on my face ensured that I was laying flat on the bed, with no pillows under my head. When they sat on my face with their full weight, the bed supported my head, neck, and back. I was able to eat them out this way "indefinitely".
Goddess Sonya's step 4b was spot on. The softest parts of the woman's azz, usually the azz crack area, should smother as much as the face chair's face as possible.
She closes by talking about the face chairs that want their women to squash their faces with her azz. She talks about how the dominant should determine what's safe, and to not squash with reckless abandon.
Not quite.
Both the domina and submissive work together to determine what's safe, and what isn't. This is part of the reason to why there are safe words, as well as talk about hard limits. This should be worked out in the beginning of the session, and test driven.
This happened during my first professional facesit session. The domina that I sessioned with had me sit on the floor, with my back to the bed, and my head on the bed, face looking up. She sat on my face, then we both adjusted to each other. This included her sitting as hard as she could. After a few minutes in this position, we had established how the rest of the facesitting session would go. During the test run, my "safewords" were nonverbal. I tapped the side of her butt cheeks, or moved my nose around inside of her butt crack, to get her to lift her azz up for me to breath.
She knew that I could make her orgasm if she didn't immobilize my mouth, so she sealed it shut with her crotch. She let me catch my breath while my nose was still inside her butt crack. She maintained the fullweight aspect of it though. Then, she'd go back to smothering my nose and face with her azz. I had to catch my breath quick.
This is the facesitting equivalent to "zeroing" a weapon. This is where how rough the facesitting could get is established and practiced. So, if a man asks you to sit on his face as if you're sitting on a chair, please do so. Do the test run to see how much weight his/her face can take. You'll make his/her day. If you're a professional domina, not meeting his facesitting standard would lead to him to finding another domina who will sit on his face per his standards.
Again, face hovering shouldn't be mistaken for a facesit. People that prefer a face hover aren't really into face sitting, they're into face hovering where the woman's azz takes up the majority of their field of view. Goddess Sonya mistakenly labels a face hover as a facesit. Her blog advice would be applicable to couples engaging in a face hovering session, but misses the mark when it comes to a true facesitting session.
Thought I'd put a perspective on some of what she said:
You can't just plop down on a face as if it's an actual seat, no matter what he says. The human face was not designed to withstand the pressure of an entire torso's weight. You have to counter balance with your legs and arms in order to exert the right amount of weight that doesn't cause damage. -- Goddess Sonya
Having had my face sat on for over a quarter of a century, I highly disagree with most of this statement. I've had women sit on my face in different countries in Europe, in North America, and in South America, as well as in Turkey. I say disagree with most of what she says, as I see what she's attempting to say.
A human head could withstand facesitting weight up to a certain point, then it transitions to a painful experience where you feel like the weight is going to crush your head like a watermelon. I've never I had that problem. I've had a woman my height, 200+ pounds, sit on my face with her full weight, while pushing down from above to add more pressure.
My face enjoyed comfort. Goddess Sonya mentioned having a woman's soft parts on a guy's face. This makes a large difference in how much weight a man's face could withstand. There are women whose butt cheeks normally spread, allowing more of my face to "disappear" into her butt crack. The skin, within her buttcrack, is among the softest parts of her butt. For women whose butts don't naturally part when they sit, I "spread" their butt cheeks before their butt settles on my face.
Another woman, over 200 pounds, sat on my face without countering her weight with her legs or arms. She just sat and let her butt sink as far as it'd normally sink if she were sitting this way on the ground. Her butt was "cushiony", her full weight facesit didn't put me through any discomfort.
Face hovering mistaken as face sittingSo yes, a woman can sit on a guy's face as if it were a chair. It wouldn't be facesitting if it didn't meet that standard. It'd be a face hover, which is what Goddess Sonya is really talking about.
In the time I've had women sit on my face, the worst experiences happened to be the ones where they utilized their leg and or their arm muscles to counter their facesitting weight. The full weight aspect was gone, and so was the pleasure that I got out of the experience.
As I've mentioned earlier in this blog, if the woman isn't sitting on your face the way she'd sit on a chair or stool, she isn't sitting on your face. She's hovering or doing something else. I'd call this "face squatting" or "face hovering" and set it up as a different form of domination that's a "cousin" to facesitting.
I've had a woman, a "spinner" sit on my face on a regular basis. No matter how hard she sat, she couldn't put any "weight discomfort" on my face. Even when she sat the hardest, I didn't feel any discomfort. Every time I felt muscle tension in her legs, showing that she's countering her weight with her legs, I pulled her butt down harder on my face. I "nudged" her legs upward. I kept doing that until I felt complete relaxation in her leg muscles.
Whenever she relaxed her muscles and sat with her full weight, she was able to sit longer. I was able to enjoy the experience better.
So, whether Goddess Sonya's statement is applicable or not depends on the woman's weight, and the strength of the head and face that she's sitting on. In most instances, a woman could sit on a guy's face as if she were sitting on a chair. This is what makes it "facesitting." Again, if she's not sitting on his face the same way she'd sit on a chair, she's not facesitting, she's face hovering or face squatting.
Dominas that utilize their leg and hip muscles to counter their fullweight facesit tend to be "one time" visits. For me, it's a pet peeve. Sit with that full weight if you want to say that you conducted a facesit session.
Think about his face carefully. Does he have lots of stubble? That may be uncomfortable for you to sit on for full weight (but no big deal if he's licking you). Wear something to cover your crotch and upper thighs to avoid chafing. -- Goddess SonyaMost of the times, this isn't an issue if the woman is doing a proper full weight facesit. I've had women sit on my face, full weight, when my facial hairs were stubbles. If her asshole is smothering my nose or nostrils, her vagina and clit areas would be smothering my opened mouth as I orally service her pussy and clit areas. My stubbles are close enough to form a "semi smooth" surface that it wouldn't bother the end of her azz crack.
Her azz cheeks would be hugging my cheeks, or upper face area, away from the other stubbles. Most of my stubbles would be exposed and not covered by ass. When she slides her asshole into my mouth, while maintaining a full weight facesit, her ass ends up smothering my opened mouth, as I orally service her asshole and anal ring. The sensitive areas of her ass avoid contact with the stubble area of my cheeks.
Does he have a prominent nose? It may be a problem for men with long noses to breath if his nose is up your ass while he tongues you. It may also be very uncomfortable for him if your full weight comes right down on his nose, particularly if you're facing forward with your pubic bone right on his nasal bones, or if you're using him as a human cushion. Again, some men like that, but let's assume the average guy into facesitting doesn't enjoy the prospect of a broken nose. -- Goddess Sonya
If a woman thinks she is reverse facesitting someone, and he or she is breathing through his or her nose, then that woman isn't facesitting. Two exceptions, catching up on one's breathing, or the woman is a spinner, and her azz is small, provided that full weight is applied where she is sitting. Otherwise, she's face hovering or face squatting. In a true reverse fullweight facesit, where the woman is also receiving cunnilingus, a guy would not be able to breathe through his nose. His or her nose would be buried and wedged deep inside the facesitting woman's butt crack.
This is my favorite facesitting position. When a woman is full weight facesitting me this way, I breathe through my mouth. If I try to breathe through my nostrils in this scenario, and she's full weight facesitting me properly, I wouldn't be able to breath anything in. I'd just feel her asshole or ass crack responding to the suction by pressing harder against my nostrils.
Also, this isn't a case where "some men" like this. I post on the Mistress Destiny Femdom Forums, where they have forums dedicated to facesitting. The common trend, among the posters there, and in other facesitting forums on the internet, is towards brutal full weight facesitting. The average guy, into facesiting, favors a full weight facesit as I've described it on this blog.
Ladies, if you follow Goddess Sonya's facesitting advice, chances are good that your sittees will be looking for another facesitting domina.
On her steps to do the facesitting
Her step one, reverse facesitting with woman's back to his eyes, is spot on for many guys. This is my favorite. For the face hover method that she described, this allows weight counter balance. But, this is facesitting, where no weight counterbalance is needed for the most part. Also, reverse isn't the only way to do it.
A former pornstar had me lay on myback with my head at the foot of the bed. She then turned around, and sat on my face, with her back to my feet and her feet planted on the floor. Her asshole was on my mouth and her closed vagina was over my nose. She sat with her full weight, while sitting straight up. I had a comfortable and enjoyable experience. She didn't sit this way for long though, as she knew that I couldn't breath. Most of the time, she reverse facesat me, with my nostrils under her butt hole and her pussy in my mough.
Goddess Sonya's step two, positioning with knees on his shoulders, is a position for a face hover or face squat, but not for a facesit. In a face squat, or face hover, you'll need strength in your legs to support the hover. In a facesit; however, the legs need to be relaxed.
For a facesit, closing the legs, and meeting the knees over the face chair' belly, allows for more face sitting weight to force down on the face. The woman should stand, feet on either side of the neck or wedged against the face chair's armpits. Then, she should drop a squat and land her azz on the face chair's face. She should sit as if she's sitting on a stool.
Goddess Sonya's step three, the facesit contact, is spot on. From my experiences, I position myself so that the woman's asshole smothers my nostrils. I spread her ass cheeks before this so that more of my face ends up inside her butt crack... soft parts of her azz on my face, her pussy exposed to my mouth and tongue.
Goddess Sonya's step four should be modified to assist with the proper facesit. If it helps her maintain her balance at the same time she's sitting upright or near upright. Also, this step would make it easier for the face chair to exhale directly against the woman's butthole. The face chair could inhale with his/her mouth, then go back to cunnilingus. The facesitting woman could press down on the face chair's chest to get air to escape through the nose, and directly against her butthole. Every woman that did this to me enjoyed the resulting sensation.
In step 4a, Goddess Sonya calls for lifting up for licking. That's not necessary, or desired in a facesitting session. If a woman lifts herself up this way, she's face hovering. I stop licking until she gets back into a full weight facesit position before I resume licking. It doesn't matter how hard a woman is sitting on my face, I've managed to maneuver my mouth to pleasure her until she creamed into my mouth... and beyond. I still managed to get my breathing done.
She mentions, in this step, that a face hoverer's knees would start hurting. In a facesit, where the legs are completely relaxed and not doing work, this takes longer to become an issue. She mentions the neck craning in her described position. Craning is an issue for a face hover, but not for a facesit. If the face chair has to crane to lick the woman's pussy, she's not facesitting.
An easy way to remember this is a description I've heard women say when it comes to using public restrooms. Many don't sit on the lid, but rather, they "hover" over it and urinate. Many have described this as "hovering". This concept also applies to facesitting, it doesn't make sense to reverse the meaning. You're either sitting on the face chair's face, or hovering/squatting over it.
The women that have sat on my face ensured that I was laying flat on the bed, with no pillows under my head. When they sat on my face with their full weight, the bed supported my head, neck, and back. I was able to eat them out this way "indefinitely".
Goddess Sonya's step 4b was spot on. The softest parts of the woman's azz, usually the azz crack area, should smother as much as the face chair's face as possible.
Both domina and submissive determine what's safe
She closes by talking about the face chairs that want their women to squash their faces with her azz. She talks about how the dominant should determine what's safe, and to not squash with reckless abandon.
Not quite.
Both the domina and submissive work together to determine what's safe, and what isn't. This is part of the reason to why there are safe words, as well as talk about hard limits. This should be worked out in the beginning of the session, and test driven.
This happened during my first professional facesit session. The domina that I sessioned with had me sit on the floor, with my back to the bed, and my head on the bed, face looking up. She sat on my face, then we both adjusted to each other. This included her sitting as hard as she could. After a few minutes in this position, we had established how the rest of the facesitting session would go. During the test run, my "safewords" were nonverbal. I tapped the side of her butt cheeks, or moved my nose around inside of her butt crack, to get her to lift her azz up for me to breath.
She knew that I could make her orgasm if she didn't immobilize my mouth, so she sealed it shut with her crotch. She let me catch my breath while my nose was still inside her butt crack. She maintained the fullweight aspect of it though. Then, she'd go back to smothering my nose and face with her azz. I had to catch my breath quick.
This is the facesitting equivalent to "zeroing" a weapon. This is where how rough the facesitting could get is established and practiced. So, if a man asks you to sit on his face as if you're sitting on a chair, please do so. Do the test run to see how much weight his/her face can take. You'll make his/her day. If you're a professional domina, not meeting his facesitting standard would lead to him to finding another domina who will sit on his face per his standards.
Again, face hovering shouldn't be mistaken for a facesit. People that prefer a face hover aren't really into face sitting, they're into face hovering where the woman's azz takes up the majority of their field of view. Goddess Sonya mistakenly labels a face hover as a facesit. Her blog advice would be applicable to couples engaging in a face hovering session, but misses the mark when it comes to a true facesitting session.
