Face Sitting, the 30

During the last decade, on Mistress Destiny's Femdom Forum, members wondered about what symbol, and number, could represent facesitting.

I didn't have a clear-cut answer then, though I threw some suggestions around in my mind. However, these suggestions were either too complex, or too obvious. Life detoured me from the question. Within the past two years, a concept came up. One that was neither too complex, nor too obvious.

If we could describe a couple simultaneously doing cunnilingus and fellatio as doing the "69", why not a number representing facesitting?

The answer that came to mind was "30". The "3" represents the woman's butt. The "0" represents the man's face. Like the "69", the digits in "30" do not touch each other. Likewise, both numbers are perpendicular to how most partners will perform each respective activity.

Some couples do the "69" with one person standing, and the other person "hanging". Most couples; however, do it with one partner on his/her back and the other on top. Likewise, most facesitting takes place with the guy on his back, and the woman sitting on his face.

As pointed out in a previous blog post, facesitting must meet the bar stool test in order for it to be "facesitting". So, the "69" and the "30" would not be the same thing.

Likewise, when requesting to be facesat, one could ask, "Can you 30 me?".

Along this note, since March is "Women's History Month," and Women's Day is on March 8, then March 30 would be the perfect day for National/International Facesitting Day.

Full Weight Facesitting, From One Who Experienced it for Over a Quarter of a Century

I surfed the internet looking for facesitting topics, when I came across a blog on Tumbler: Embracing Your Inner Dominant. Goddess Sonya wrote an article, "How To Sit on His Face," posted on May 25, 2011. She presented one female, dominant, perspective on sitting on a guy's face. Many of her statements were consistent with what I've posted here, though there are some differences. 

Thought I'd put a perspective on some of what she said:

You can't just plop down on a face as if it's an actual seat, no matter what he says. The human face was not designed to withstand the pressure of an entire torso's weight. You have to counter balance with your legs and arms in order to exert the right amount of weight that doesn't cause damage. -- Goddess Sonya 

Having had my face sat on for over a quarter of a century, I highly disagree with most of this statement. I've had women sit on my face in different countries in Europe, in North America, and in South America, as well as in Turkey. I say disagree with most of what she says, as I see what she's attempting to say.

A human head could withstand facesitting weight up to a certain point, then it transitions to a painful experience where you feel like the weight is going to crush your head like a watermelon. I've never I had that problem. I've had a woman my height, 200+ pounds, sit on my face with her full weight, while pushing down from above to add more pressure. 

My face enjoyed comfort. Goddess Sonya mentioned having a woman's soft parts on a guy's face. This makes a large difference in how much weight a man's face could withstand. There are women whose butt cheeks normally spread, allowing more of my face to "disappear" into her butt crack. The skin, within her buttcrack, is among the softest parts of her butt. For women whose butts don't naturally part when they sit, I "spread" their butt cheeks before their butt settles on my face.

Another woman, over 200 pounds, sat on my face without countering her weight with her legs or arms. She just sat and let her butt sink as far as it'd normally sink if she were sitting this way on the ground. Her butt was "cushiony", her full weight facesit didn't put me through any discomfort. 

Face hovering mistaken as face sitting

So yes, a woman can sit on a guy's face as if it were a chair. It wouldn't be facesitting if it didn't meet that standard. It'd be a face hover, which is what Goddess Sonya is really talking about. 

In the time I've had women sit on my face, the worst experiences happened to be the ones where they utilized their leg and or their arm muscles to counter their facesitting weight. The full weight aspect was gone, and so was the pleasure that I got out of the experience. 

As I've mentioned earlier in this blog, if the woman isn't sitting on your face the way she'd sit on a chair or stool, she isn't sitting on your face. She's hovering or doing something else. I'd call this "face squatting" or "face hovering" and set it up as a different form of domination that's a "cousin" to facesitting. 

I've had a woman, a "spinner" sit on my face on a regular basis. No matter how hard she sat, she couldn't put any "weight discomfort" on my face. Even when she sat the hardest, I didn't feel any discomfort. Every time I felt muscle tension in her legs, showing that she's countering her weight with her legs, I pulled her butt down harder on my face. I "nudged" her legs upward. I kept doing that until I felt complete relaxation in her leg muscles. 

Whenever she relaxed her muscles and sat with her full weight, she was able to sit longer. I was able to enjoy the experience better. 

So, whether Goddess Sonya's statement is applicable or not depends on the woman's weight, and the strength of the head and face that she's sitting on. In most instances, a woman could sit on a guy's face as if she were sitting on a chair. This is what makes it "facesitting." Again, if she's not sitting on his face the same way she'd sit on a chair, she's not facesitting, she's face hovering or face squatting. 

Dominas that utilize their leg and hip muscles to counter their fullweight facesit tend to be "one time" visits. For me, it's a pet peeve. Sit with that full weight if you want to say that you conducted a facesit session. 

Think about his face carefully. Does he have lots of stubble? That may be uncomfortable for you to sit on for full weight (but no big deal if he's licking you).  Wear something to cover your crotch and upper thighs to avoid chafing. -- Goddess Sonya

Most of the times, this isn't an issue if the woman is doing a proper full weight facesit. I've had women sit on my face, full weight, when my facial hairs were stubbles. If her asshole is smothering my nose or nostrils, her vagina and clit areas would be smothering my opened mouth as I orally service her pussy and clit areas. My stubbles are close enough to form a "semi smooth" surface that it wouldn't bother the end of her azz crack. 

Her azz cheeks would be hugging my cheeks, or upper face area, away from the other stubbles. Most of my stubbles would be exposed and not covered by ass. When she slides her asshole into my mouth, while maintaining a full weight facesit, her ass ends up smothering my opened mouth, as I orally service her asshole and anal ring. The sensitive areas of her ass avoid contact with the stubble area of my cheeks. 

Does he have a prominent nose? It may be a problem for men with long noses to breath if his nose is up your ass while he tongues you. It may also be very uncomfortable for him if your full weight comes right down on his nose, particularly if you're facing forward with your pubic bone right on his nasal bones, or if you're using him as a human cushion. Again, some men like that, but let's assume the average guy into facesitting doesn't enjoy the prospect of a broken nose. -- Goddess Sonya

If a woman thinks she is reverse facesitting someone, and he or she is breathing through his or her nose, then that woman isn't facesitting. Two exceptions, catching up on one's breathing, or the woman is a spinner, and her azz is small, provided that full weight is applied where she is sitting. Otherwise, she's face hovering or face squatting. In a true reverse fullweight facesit, where the woman is also receiving cunnilingus, a guy would not be able to breathe through his nose. His or her nose would be buried and wedged deep inside the facesitting woman's butt crack. 

This is my favorite facesitting position. When a woman is full weight facesitting me this way, I breathe through my mouth. If I try to breathe through my nostrils in this scenario, and she's full weight facesitting me properly, I wouldn't be able to breath anything in. I'd just feel her asshole or ass crack responding to the suction by pressing harder against my nostrils. 

Also, this isn't a case where "some men" like this. I post on the Mistress Destiny Femdom Forums, where they have forums dedicated to facesitting. The common trend, among the posters there, and in other facesitting forums on the internet, is towards brutal full weight facesitting. The average guy, into facesiting, favors a full weight facesit as I've described it on this blog. 

Ladies, if you follow Goddess Sonya's facesitting advice, chances are good that your sittees will be looking for another facesitting domina. 

On her steps to do the facesitting

Her step one, reverse facesitting with woman's back to his eyes, is spot on for many guys. This is my favorite. For the face hover method that she described, this allows weight counter balance. But, this is facesitting, where no weight counterbalance is needed for the most part. Also, reverse isn't the only way to do it. 

A former pornstar had me lay on myback with my head at the foot of the bed. She then turned around, and sat on my face, with her back to my feet and her feet planted on the floor. Her asshole was on my mouth and her closed vagina was over my nose. She sat with her full weight, while sitting straight up. I had a comfortable and enjoyable experience. She didn't sit this way for long though, as she knew that I couldn't breath. Most of the time, she reverse facesat me, with my nostrils under her butt hole and her pussy in my mough.

Goddess Sonya's step two, positioning with knees on his shoulders, is a position for a face hover or face squat, but not for a facesit. In a face squat, or face hover, you'll need strength in your legs to support the hover. In a facesit; however, the legs need to be relaxed. 

For a facesit, closing the legs, and meeting the knees over the face chair' belly, allows for more face sitting weight to force down on the face. The woman should stand, feet on either side of the neck or wedged against the face chair's armpits. Then, she should drop a squat and land her azz on the face chair's face. She should sit as if she's sitting on a stool. 

Goddess Sonya's step three, the facesit contact, is spot on. From my experiences, I position myself so that the woman's asshole smothers my nostrils. I spread her ass cheeks before this so that more of my face ends up inside her butt crack... soft parts of her azz on my face, her pussy exposed to my mouth and tongue. 

Goddess Sonya's step four should be modified to assist with the proper facesit. If it helps her maintain her balance at the same time she's sitting upright or near upright. Also, this step would make it easier for the face chair to exhale directly against the woman's butthole. The face chair could inhale with his/her mouth, then go back to cunnilingus. The facesitting woman could press down on the face chair's chest to get air to escape through the nose, and directly against her butthole. Every woman that did this to me enjoyed the resulting sensation. 

In step 4a, Goddess Sonya calls for lifting up for licking. That's not necessary, or desired in a facesitting session. If a woman lifts herself up this way, she's face hovering. I stop licking until she gets back into a full weight facesit position before I resume licking. It doesn't matter how hard a woman is sitting on my face, I've managed to maneuver my mouth to pleasure her until she creamed into my mouth... and beyond. I still managed to get my breathing done. 

She mentions, in this step, that a face hoverer's knees would start hurting. In a facesit, where the legs are completely relaxed and not doing work, this takes longer to become an issue. She mentions the neck craning in her described position. Craning is an issue for a face hover, but not for a facesit. If the face chair has to crane to lick the woman's pussy, she's not facesitting. 

An easy way to remember this is a description I've heard women say when it comes to using public restrooms. Many don't sit on the lid, but rather, they "hover" over it and urinate. Many have described this as "hovering". This concept also applies to facesitting, it doesn't make sense to reverse the meaning. You're either sitting on the face chair's face, or hovering/squatting over it.

The women that have sat on my face ensured that I was laying flat on the bed, with no pillows under my head. When they sat on my face with their full weight, the bed supported my head, neck, and back. I was able to eat them out this way "indefinitely". 

Goddess Sonya's step 4b was spot on. The softest parts of the woman's azz, usually the azz crack area, should smother as much as the face chair's face as possible. 

Both domina and submissive determine what's safe

She closes by talking about the face chairs that want their women to squash their faces with her azz. She talks about how the dominant should determine what's safe, and to not squash with reckless abandon. 

Not quite. 

Both the domina and submissive work together to determine what's safe, and what isn't. This is part of the reason to why there are safe words, as well as talk about hard limits. This should be worked out in the beginning of the session, and test driven. 

This happened during my first professional facesit session. The domina that I sessioned with had me sit on the floor, with my back to the bed, and my head on the bed, face looking up. She sat on my face, then we both adjusted to each other. This included her sitting as hard as she could. After a few minutes in this position, we had established how the rest of the facesitting session would go. During the test run, my "safewords" were nonverbal. I tapped the side of her butt cheeks, or moved my nose around inside of her butt crack, to get her to lift her azz up for me to breath. 

She knew that I could make her orgasm if she didn't immobilize my mouth, so she sealed it shut with her crotch. She let me catch my breath while my nose was still inside her butt crack. She maintained the fullweight aspect of it though. Then, she'd go back to smothering my nose and face with her azz. I had to catch my breath quick. 

This is the facesitting equivalent to "zeroing" a weapon. This is where how rough the facesitting could get is established and practiced. So, if a man asks you to sit on his face as if you're sitting on a chair, please do so. Do the test run to see how much weight his/her face can take. You'll make his/her day. If you're a professional domina, not meeting his facesitting standard would lead to him to finding another domina who will sit on his face per his standards. 

Again, face hovering shouldn't be mistaken for a facesit. People that prefer a face hover aren't really into face sitting, they're into face hovering where the woman's azz takes up the majority of their field of view. Goddess Sonya mistakenly labels a face hover as a facesit. Her blog advice would be applicable to couples engaging in a face hovering session, but misses the mark when it comes to a true facesitting session. 

Debunking Frank Kobola's Cosmopolitan Article - 12 Things a Guys Thinks When You Sit on His Face

I read a Cosmopolitan article, written by Frank Kobala, that lists our supposed thoughts when we get facesat. Those weren't my thoughts. 

Facesitting has almost been a part of my entire sex life. What Frank Kobola says in his article is not what comes to my mind when a woman is sitting on my face. In fact, there's an entire community of folks like me that don't think those thoughts listed in Frank Kobola's Cosmopolitan article, 12 Things a Guy Thinks When You Sit on His Face. 

I'm going to take each of his points, and respond with what we facesit fetishists really think...

Frank Kobola, Cosmopolitan: Oh you want me to go down on you.... so why are you keeping me on my back? This isn't making sense.

For many of us, this makes perfect sense. I already know that I'm going to be eating her out this way. If we're in this position, it's usually because I've asked to be in this position. Every time I see a hot woman, that fits the profile of the type of woman I want sitting on my face, I fantasize her sitting flat on top of my face... facing my feet... while she sits with her full weight and I eat her pussy out. 

Frank Kobola, Cosmopolitan: I see what's going on here. This took me a second. We're going to shake things up, aren't we? And by "shake things up" I mean you're going to sit on my face.

I see that long before the sex event. In fact, I've planned it. 

Frank Kobola, Cosmopolitan: This is so porny! There is nothing wrong with that. It's actually preferable.

What I actually think: I feel like I'm in heaven! 

One of the most beautiful sights you can see is the woman's ass right before she sits flat on top of your face. 

Frank Kobola, Cosmopolitan: I can't breathe. I need a signal for you to give me some air that isn't me throwing you off me in a panic.

As long as the woman isn't actively smothering you for breath play, there's always a way to breathe while giving oral this way. If you're doing this "50 Shades of Grey" style, there's always a "safe signal." 

I've done the later in BDSM, all I had to do was a "light signal" with my face. She always partially lifted her butt up just enough for me to catch my breath... then she slowly lowered her butt back down... and settled back into the heavy full weight facesit. 

Frank Kobola, Cosmopolitan: My eye is basically in her butt. Is this... is this how all adults get pink eye?

If my eyes aren't in her butt, with her butt cheeks pinning my eyelids shut, she isn't sitting on my face properly. 

There are few exceptions to this, like if she's sitting on my mouth and I'm looking at her back, or if she has a small butt. Otherwise, her ass cheeks should be pressing down on my eyelids in a way that makes it "impossible" for me to open my eyes. 

Frank Kobola, Cosmopolitan: I have no choice but to make her orgasm.

That's how I want to make women orgasm, and I could do it faster this way. I could also do it the traditional way and make her involuntarily shake aggressively. The facesit is one way to warm her up for this.

Frank Kobola, Cosmopolitan: She will not release me from her grip until then.

I don't want her to "release me from her grip," but unfortunately, this always happens as she orgasms or worse, when she tries to "reward" me by collapsing her upper body forward and putting us in a 69 position. 

She may think that she's rewarding me. I actually see that as a way to punish me for doing a good job, not reward me. I usually stop licking when she does this, then I nudge her back into the facesitting position. 

Frank Kobola, Cosmopolitan: How can I do hand stuff? Can I wedge my hand over my face?

First, if you're doing this right, you don't need your hands to do anything, unless your tongue can't reach her clitoris. Your arms and hands should be at your side, so that when she does sit, you could use your hands to assist her sit better... and to help pleasure her. 

I don't want anything between her butt and my face, as it'd ruin the fun. 

Frank Kobola, Cosmopolitan: I guess I can just use my nose instead. It's already in there.

The nose is trapped under her butt. The mouth has access to the entire area that needs oral service... most of the time. If not, the hands could be brought into action to help the mouth.  

Frank Kobola, Cosmopolitan: Please don't crush my head. There is so much pressure.

I've found that if I get as much of my nose inside her anal ring as possible, and as much of my face inside her ass crack as possible, it doesn't matter how hard she sits. Her ass crack is the softest part of her ass. She should have enough butt muscle and fat to cushion the rest of my face.

Now, there is a point where she sits "too hard," but it's rare. Your mileage may vary. You could give nonverbal signals to the woman so that she could pick up the excess, and leave you with the facesitting pressure that you want. 

If she's not sitting hard enough to leave reddish pressure marks on my face, she's not sitting properly. 

I've had a woman my height and weight sit on my face, plus push down from above. I still was comfortable. The fattest woman to sit on my face ended up giving me one of the most comfortable facesit experiences that I had. Talk about soft and cushiony "up the ying yang". 

Frank Kobola, Cosmopolitan: Can you reach my penis from there? I'm just saying, if you want to, you totally can.

Most facesitting women do that without being told, that's if you're eating them out properly. If she's my height or taller, yes, she could easily reach my penis. If she's shorter, and she could lean forward without taking too much weight off my face, she could still reach my penis.  

If she can't do it without breaking a proper facesit, I don't want her to reach for my penis. 

Frank Kobola, Cosmopolitan: Do you want to reverse cowgirl this? Is a suggestion I would make if I could actually talk.

If a woman wants to "ride the north face," I give an Army hand-and-arm signal similar to "rally." She easily interprets this as "turn around and ride the south face." Once she turns around, I use my arms to pull her ass onto my face, then I pull her ass down harder once her ass is on my face.  

Frank Kobola, Cosmopolitan: Are you coming or is my world ending? I can't even see anymore. It's just pitch black and vibrations, like an earthquake in a cave.

I don't worry if she has arrived at coming yet, because I know she's getting there. These women could only take so much orgasms in that position that the facesit ends shortly after that. 

As far as "not seeing" anymore... if you could see her butt cheeks, she's not sitting properly. 

If it's pitch black and you feel vibrations/earthquakes, both of you are doing something right.

A Real Facesit has to Pass the Barstool Test

Did you sit on someone's face? Are you thinking about doing it? If you did facesit someone, did you really do a "face sit"?

The best way to answer this question is to use the "Barstool Test." Here's how the facesitting barstool test works.

Look back at the actual facesitting that you did. If you're the facesitting woman, did you sit on the other person's face the exact same way you'd sit on a barstool at a bar, after a long day of being on your feet?

If you answered "No," then you didn't really sit on his/her face. If you answered "Yes," then chances are you performed a real "facesit."

Now, many would argue that what they thought was a "facesit" is actually a proper "facesit." The question that you have to answer then is this, "Is that how you would sit on a barstool?" Or, "Is that how you would've sat on a chair after your mom told you to sit properly?"

There are two ways to find out if you did subject your face chair to a real "facesit." One is through smell test, the other is through an impression on the face skin.

If you were to sniff the face that you just sat on, and smell your "bum" aroma on his or her face, there's a good chance that you did a proper "facesit." But, let's say you did pretty good at washing yourself in that area.

There's another way to find out if you subjected your face chair to a real facesit.

The moment you lift your butt off his/her face, look back and quickly look at that face. Do you see reddish pressure marks on the sittee's face? Do you see any markings, colorings, or face skin indentions where your butt was just sitting?

If so, there's a good chance that you did a proper "facesit."

During a reverse facesit, if the person that you're facesitting isn't able to breathe through his/her nose, only through his/her mouth; there's a good chance that you're doing a proper facesit. If the person that you're reverse facesitting isn't able to open his/her eyes, because your butt cheeks are pressing down hard on his/her eyelids, there's a good chance that you're doing a proper facesit.

During a frontal facesit, if the person that you're facesitting isn't able to breathe through his/her mouth, only through his/her nose if you let him/her; there's a good chance that you're doing a proper facesit. If the person that you're frontal facesitting is easily performing anilingus on you, because your butt hole is "deep" inside his/her mouth, there's a good chance that you're doing a proper facesit.

Whether you're frontal or reverse facesitting your face chair; if the person you're facesitting is performing anilingus from under you; and that person is unable to breathe through his/her mouth, then you're doing a proper facesit, or mouth-sit.

I found that the women that were able to do the proper/perfect facesit were the women with all or a combination of the following traits, not exclusive:

• Dominant.
• Knows what she wants during a sexual interaction.
• Has some form of animosity against men.
• Is turned on by male degradation.
• Doesn't care about the man's comfort or dignity during the facesit.
• Demonstrates no mercy or shame for the person whom she's facesitting.
• Interested in getting "hers" when it comes to sexual interaction/gratification before the man gets "his".
• Treat s the face that she's sitting on no different from anything else that she'd properly sit on.
• Has a butt crack that naturally spreads when she squats down to facesit.
• Manually spreads her butt crack, if it doesn't naturally spread, while she squats down to facesit.

This list isn't inclusive, and even the women that don't show signs of having the above traits can provide good facesits.

The common theme among these good facesits is that these women treat the face, that they sit on, no different from a barstool that they'd sit on, or anything else that they'd sit on if they were sitting properly.

If she facesits this way, the person that she's facesitting will enjoy the facesit. I've also noticed that the women that facesit this way generally tend to get the most enjoyment out of the facesit.

Toilet Paper or Wet Wipe, Which is Better? From a Facesitting Perspective

Toilet Paper or Wet Wipe?

I've seen a couple of articles, with associated comments, of people arguing the advantages of one or the other. For some people, using a regular toilet paper is the adult thing to do. For others, it's the idea of getting more ass cleaning done. After all, if you got some crap on your arm, would you use a toilet paper to wipe it off, or would you use a baby wipe? Or, for that matter, would you wash it?

Considering that I love to have women sit flat on top of my face with their bare bottoms... with their full weight... with their assholes smothering my nostrils... I have a good vantage point on this question.

There's no consistency among women that facesit me on how well they clean their butts.

I've had women facesit me right after they took a dump. Some of them wiped between taking care of business and facesitting me, one or two didn't.

Some of them wiped their butts like they normally would, went about their business, then facesat me when it was time for me to live up to my username. Some of these women used toilet paper, others used wet wipes. One or two women took a dump, didn't wipe, went about their business, then facesat me when it was time for me to live up to my username.

Contrary to what one may think, once a woman sits on my face, I can't smell anything... not even her asshole as it smothers my nostrils. The feel of her ass on my face overrides the recent memory of her ass smell. The sensation of her ass on my face dominates until she lifts her butt up... this is when the smell kicks in.

I love to have hot/beautiful women facesit me, their ass smell never bothers me. If anything, it's an erotic part of the experience. After she removes her butt from my face, I wear her ass perfume on my face with honor and pride.

One woman put real perfume on her ass right before she facesat me.

Many women sat on my face right after taking a shower. Some of them "left it at that" then sat on my face fresh out of the shower. Others took a shower prior to meeting me, went about their business, then facesat me when it was time to make me live up to my username. Others made a pit stop to the bathroom... more than likely to apply some wet wipes to their asses... before facesitting me.

So, which ass cleaning method provided the cleanest smelling and looking butt? The answer is simple... the women that showered, then latter applied the wet wipes.

I know firsthand, from when women sit on my face, that a person isn't going to get rid of all the butt smell. Even after a shower, there's going to be a residue smell. The ass may smell clean, without smell, after a post shower wet wipe application... but I've still had the smell of her ass in my nostrils a day after she sat on my face.

What's the worst smelling ass? Remember the woman that put perfume on her ass to masque the smell? That was the worst smelling ass I've smelt. But once she was sitting on my face with her full weight, I didn't smell anything until after she got up.

So ladies, if you're worried about how you smell down there, remember this... that's part of this fetish's erotic sensation. Going from your perfume/make up smell fragrance, to your ass smell, to your ass and full weight on my face is extremely erotic.

Now, many of these articles focus on the toilet paper or the wet wipe. Rare is the mention of the best way to clean one's ass.

Here's one method to use, if you're in your home.

Stage one, use the toilet paper to collect the bulk of your feces residue. Fold the toilet paper into two square rectangle length, and overlap to the strength that you want. Place the whole rectangle on your hand, then place it on your ass crack so that you could "trap" the feces residue. Take your time collecting your feces residue... let the toilet paper take it in. Bring the toilet paper into a semi ball, trapping the feces residue, then release the used toilet paper into the toilet bowl.

Break out the wet wipe and wipe like you normally would. Depending on your toilet and the type of plumbing that you have, you could either release the wet wipe into the toilet, or put it in a waste basket. If you don't have wet wipes, use wet toilet paper as a substitute.

Now, here's a step that most people don't use... but it's a step that'll keep your ass cleaner than most people's asses.

This step involves bathing your ass while it's on the toilet bowl. This can be done even without a bidet. All you need is a container... like a used up whip cream container, soap, and ready access to a faucet.

First, you lean forward to bring your ass crack up. Use one hand to pour the water through your ass crack, and the other hand to guide the water onto your ass crack. Second, you pour liquid soap, or apply regular soap, to the hand you're going to use to lather your butt. When you get enough of a lather, thoroughly lather your butt. Once you're done, repeat step one, this time to post rinse. The forth step involves using a dry wash rag to dry your bottom.

The third step is a modified version of how they clean their asses in the Far East and in southwest Asia. Asians generally have a better concept of cleaning their ass after taking care of business than their North American counterparts. However, many haven't caught up on the idea that you're supposed to include soap lathering in the process.

Why not use a rag to do the lathering and washing? One reason is that your own skin generally will be easier on your butt crack. Another is that women that do this get more of the smell off than those that use a wash rag. Also, you're not going to be able to hand rinse all the mess from the rag. Just think of the idea of using the same piece of toilet paper each time you use the bathroom.

If you're one of the people who have trained your body to take care of business around the same time in the morning... and have a habit of taking a shower right afterwards... you could skip step three and go straight to the shower.

If there's no shower planned after the bathroom visit, use all three steps. As always, wash your hands afterwards. When you wash your hands, wash them with a rinse, real lather, and post rinse cycle... using techniques that doctors show their patients. This technique involves lathering each finger during the lathering phase.

Rinse, turn the water off, thoroughly lather, turn the water back on and post rinse.

Back to the facesitting...

For me, it doesn't matter what a woman does to "clean up" after taking a dump... before she sits on my face. I make sure that my face is clean so that she has a clean face to sit on... regardless of how she cleans her ass or whether she cleans it or not.  The smell is part of the fun, and is a non-issue when it comes to the facesitting itself.

I have a different mindset when it comes to eating a woman's ass out though. If she expects me to ask her for a chance to toss her salad, she's got to have a clean ass. If she doesn't have a clean ass, and she wants her ass eaten, she'd have to "force" her asshole into my mouth. 

Does Facesitting Hurt?

Does facesitting hurt? That depends on how, and how long, a woman sits on a man's face. The facesitter and facesittee have different tolerances to this.

I've had anywhere from thin women to BBW women sit on my face. The vast majority of these facesittings were comfortable, no matter how heavy the woman was.

There are some tricks you could use to minimize, or eliminate, the pain that'd come with having a woman sit on your face.

One of the first things you want to do is to have her butthole and/or her anal ring smother your nostrils. Before she sits on your face, spread her butt cheeks apart. Since they're real soft, you want more of that part of her butt covering your face.

I've had a woman that weighed more than 200 pounds sit on my face this way. My face was snug and comfortable, and it didn't matter how much weight she applied to the sit, I felt comfortable. Her having extra padding in her butt helped out a lot, as that acted as a cushion.

The only worry I have, with women in this range, is in the breathing department. You could still breathe through your mouth if you lift her pussy up to breath. Many women are understanding in this area, and will help you catch your breath.

I had one woman, my height, sit on my face in a way that her tailbone put pressure on the part of my nose between my eyes. This pressure/pain disappeared when I slid her butthole into my mouth.

Slim/light women may come across as less painful sitters, but with less padding in their butts, their tailbone and butt bones are able to exert more pressure. Their weighing less compensated for this pressure, so it was still bearable.

The longer you have a woman sit on your face, the more her facesitting pressure may affect your eyes. You may start to "see" concentric colors radiate out from a certain point. You could relieve yourself of this issue by having her slide her butthole into your mouth.

So, whether facesitting hurts or not depends on whether or not the facesitting woman is applying a perfect facesitting fit or not. It also depends on her structure and on your tolerance level.

The vast majority of the facesitting that women have subjected me to has been erotic and comfortable. Women that have sat on my face perfectly managed to get me to orgasm just with the mere act of the facesitting... with no additional manipulating involved.

Facesitting is the Beautiful, Sexy, Confident, and Dominant Woman's Sport

A few years ago, I wrote an article for ehow on how to get facesat. The article stayed on that site, along with other rated "X" articles. It didn't stay up there for long before they took the article down. When they gave me the reason for taking it down, I smacked them with their own hypocrisy... pointing out the other rated "X" articles that were still up on their site.

They took those other articles down. That didn't stop me from hammering them every time they slipped and allowed a triple X article back on that site.

Years later, I stumbled on the article that I submitted. Turned out that someone that worked for that site passed it to someone they knew on another website, "Slog, the stranger dot com." It was under the title, "Many women refuse to sit on faces because they're conscious of what a butt smells like." Lindy West posted it on that site.

I have a detailed, expanded, version of that article on this blog. I've also written a variant of that article, and posted it on Mistress Destiny's Femdom Forums.

Those who know me from Mistress Destiny's Femdom Forums know that I don't miss out on an opportunity to defend what I say. I've collected a series of negative responses to my article. Time to destroy these retards' arguments a la MDFF style:

[quote]Uh, unless she scrubbed for twenty minutes with five different types of soap, you don't have to tell her how great it smells. Because it doesn't smell great. It smells atrocious.
--god i hate butt  October 1, 2008 4:32 PM [/quote]

I wouldn't be surprised that most of your academic problems came from your piss poor reading comprehension abilities. What I find atrocious is that they let someone, that's unable to use his/her brain, post on "Slog dot the stranger dot com," thus "gracing" the reader with his/her stupidity.

The point isn't to argue with her as to whether she smells great down there or not. The point is to counter her worries that she "smells" down there. Many women refuse to go through with a complete facesit, as they're conscious of how they smell down there. They'll either refuse to go through with it, denying the facesit fan real fun, or they'll make some adjustments.

For example, I've had situations where women would try to "hover" their butt to "spare" me what they think is an issue. This could be the smell, it could also be the fear that they'd "crush" me with their weight.

Letting her know that the smell is "part of the fun," helps alleviate her worrying about how the facesit enthusiast would react, or think, if she were to go ahead despite her worries.

[quote]A girl friend of mine in college had a boyfriend who, as a special treat during a bout of cunnilingus, ran his tongue back to her butt.
She was so upset that anyone would ever think to do such a thing to anyone that she cried. Like, right then.
--David Schmader  October 1, 2008 4:39 PM[/quote]

Not on topic you numbnuts. The article she posted had something to do with facesitting, with cunnilingus involved, not annalingus. Reading a post, before you comment on it, would spare you from coming across as an idiot that wants attention.

The vast majority of the women... that I've eaten out... were too busy going wild to care that I was nudging them into a full facesitting position. The few that resisted the full facesit were still in a position where part, or all, of my nose was inside their arse crack, even if there was no contact in that area. Future attempts with these women lead to a full facesit.

You see, that's key. You have to be eating her out right. Most men think that they're eating a woman out right, when they aren't. Most women complain that very few men know how to perform cunnilingus. That's a legitimate complaint. So if the guy that you're talking about was doing it properly... she wouldn't have been cognizant of the fact that he slipped his tongue there. She would've been too busy going wild over the sensation he would've been giving her had he ate her out good.

[quote]i made a girl cry when i gave her the 1st orgasm of her life. and it wasn't tears of joy & gratitude, it was because she thought it was dirty & she was now a slut.
and i never even touched her ass with my tongue.
--max solomon  October 1, 2008 4:58 PM[/quote]

Another off topic post. I'll be lenient here though, as this appears to be a reply to the knucklehead that went off topic.

None of the women, that I introduced into facesitting, felt "dirty" or "sluttish" after the experience. The majority of them became facesitting "monsters" and looked forward to parking their butts on my face for more.

[quote] Eww. Butt.
-- TVDinner  October 1, 2008 6:11 PM[/quote]

Ewww, a person who posts as if a retarded ghost possesses him/her.

[quote]Let's work the problem here. Is this not what scented products were made for? Peach, aloe, a carefully aimed squirt of Chanel No. 5? Surely a resolution can be reached! I mean, for the greater good and all.
--Irena  October 1, 2008 7:57 PM[/quote]

One woman tried that, that's the worst thing that they could do. Using one of those products actually worsens the smell.

The best thing that a woman could do is to come fresh out of the shower, or to clean it with soap and water... pre-rinse, lather, post rinse. Most women, when they know that they're going to sit on my face, are pretty good at cleaning up. Their butt has no bad smell.

[quote]I don't know if vacuum-sealed-mash-the-anus-onto-my-nose-squashing is necessary, but having the lady straddle the face is the BEST angle for the cunnilingus. No weird lower-jaw jutting required! Hours of sloppy goodness.
--Yogi  October 1, 2008 7:30 PM[/quote]

It's very necessary. This way, one movement of your tongue simultaneously takes care of her clitoris and surrounding area in one stroke. Keep in mind that you're doing this in a repeated pattern. Women have a lot of sensation in their anal ring area. Merely having your nose there, while driving her wild with cunnilingus, amplifies the pleasure she gets from cunnilingus.

The way that I explained it also puts you in a situation to where everything that you do adds to her pleasure... this includes you catching your breath. I've had no "pressure on the jaw" issues while eating them out this way.

I've also done it as you described, but the woman didn't get as much pleasure as she did in a full weight facesit. Your way was also less comfortable for me.